tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post2890035995007161525..comments2023-10-28T08:05:11.991-06:00Comments on Renee's Genealogy Blog: Interfacing with NFS - Part OneRenee Zamorahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-92055784438157171212008-02-16T12:39:00.000-07:002008-02-16T12:39:00.000-07:00Renee, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLOG! I appreciate you...Renee, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLOG! I appreciate you keeping us amateurs updated on what is going on. <BR/><BR/>Any idea when you will be creating "Interfacing to NFS - Part Two"? I'm frustrated as a Legacy 6 Deluxe user that I have not heard what plans they have for Legacy? Did some searches on the web but didn't find much. By contrast I'm a member of the PAFInsight Yahoo group and Ohanna is working on the beta of their FamilyInsight product and it sounds like a very useful product. I know that these are competing businesses and they don't want to say too much so as not to give their competitor a leg up but a little information now and then (however small) would be helpful.<BR/><BR/>Having read through all of this blogs ("Interfacing to NFS - Part One") comments I'm confused at what the LDS Church's stand is on PAF. Are they going to upgrade it OR just support the current version (5.2)? Someone made it sound like after NFS was fully debugged and running fine in all Temple Districts that they would go back and upgrade PAF. Have you heard anything to clarify current (or future) policy?<BR/><BR/>Thank you,<BR/>John Blackham, N7TEKJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13256198607966040676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-11212093631190361742007-12-07T13:01:00.000-07:002007-12-07T13:01:00.000-07:00I just looked at the updated NFS list and see that...I just looked at the updated NFS list and see that the GUATEMALA TEMPLE is not listed. It will be going LIVE 11 December 2007. This information comes from both the Temple Recorder and Assistant Temple Recorder. <BR/><BR/>I am nearly finished with my senior mission here and am looking forward to switching over to Roots Magic and will be using PAF Insight and PAF PAL to clean up my databases (computer left at home while serving here).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-13587285151054415362007-11-16T10:36:00.000-07:002007-11-16T10:36:00.000-07:00I strongly disagree with what the author of RootsM...I strongly disagree with what the author of RootsMagic said about "IF you consider it a problem (which I don't)." He said that all of the fields get exported into the title field. Okay. But that also includes the details, meaning, information that is uniquely different for each citation. When the user on the importing end then wants to cite one of the main sources, they should beware because it will also contain the detail information. This detail information should NOT be in the main source. The way RM exports their sources will cause big problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-36268771697388843102007-11-15T07:52:00.000-07:002007-11-15T07:52:00.000-07:00RE: Direct interface with PAFUse Windows! Drag & D...RE: Direct interface with PAF<BR/><BR/>Use Windows! Drag & Drop or Copy & Paste. Open up nFS and PAF side by side and Drag & Drop - it works both ways and for one-at-a-time jobs is faster than using gedcom.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436114317124415367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-70273322743761387862007-10-08T18:55:00.000-06:002007-10-08T18:55:00.000-06:00*IF* you consider it a problem (which I don't). G...*IF* you consider it a problem (which I don't). GEDCOM forces all sources to only use 3 fields; Title, Author, and Publisher. That's great if all your sources are books, but if you have gravestones, census, certificates, or any other type of source that doesn't use these 3 fields, you either pigeonhole them into title, author, and publisher fields (who is the author or publisher of a gravestone?) or you format them with templates. So the answer to your question is "any program that uses source templates and doesn't force sources into a title, author, publisher format will exhibit this same behavior". RootsMagic will put the properly formatted source into the title field of the GEDCOM file, so nothing gets lost. So a program like PAF that is limited to only title, author and publisher (regardless of the source type) will import the full formatted source into the title field.RootsMagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01316415076585171608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-67326771154628756842007-10-07T07:51:00.000-06:002007-10-07T07:51:00.000-06:00Does anyone know if the problem with RM source tem...Does anyone know if the problem with RM source templates also exists in Legacy or Ancestral Quest? Thank you so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-52478461745766580882007-10-03T22:53:00.000-06:002007-10-03T22:53:00.000-06:00RM does have source templates, but once you export...RM does have source templates, but once you export/share your RM file, all source fields are lost. In other words, if you use RM's source templates, and then create a GEDCOM for sharing, your sources will no longer have an author, publication info, or anything else. All source information is combined into one text string and moved to the source title field. Looks good on the outside...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-45017231351970719772007-10-02T14:39:00.000-06:002007-10-02T14:39:00.000-06:00Interesting, but I never said it wasn't going to b...Interesting, but I never said it wasn't going to be used and supported. FamilySearch totally understands that many people are loyal and will use it to the bitter end. There are also developers out there making add-ons to allow people to interface with NFS, i.e. FamilyInsight. Just remember these add-ons are not free they are commercial products.Renee Zamorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-73758967658479948412007-10-01T21:33:00.000-06:002007-10-01T21:33:00.000-06:00PAF lovers rejoice and peace be unto you--here is ...PAF lovers rejoice and peace be unto you--here is our direction to lead others;<BR/>Dear Sister Olds,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing to FamilySearch Support. It is an unfortunate rumor that PAF is not going to continue to be used and supported. PAF is not dead and is still being supported. PAF training should continue. When there are product changes, you will certainly learn about them through official church channels. Please do what you can to end the rumors. <BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sincerely, <BR/>FamilySearch Support <BR/>ntLindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01102759389174198382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-40417282693916598442007-09-29T11:43:00.000-06:002007-09-29T11:43:00.000-06:00Sonora FHC,RootsMagic has had source templates (So...Sonora FHC,<BR/><BR/>RootsMagic has had source templates (SourceWizard) and note formatting for 5 years so Renee will be in good shape.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-89730778295688957352007-09-29T09:45:00.000-06:002007-09-29T09:45:00.000-06:00I am becoming a missionary that will be on the sup...I am becoming a missionary that will be on the support team for NFS. I got the official word that PAF is not dead!! It will be re-evaluated and updated after NFS is up and running smoothly throughout the world. The Church has concentrated all its energy and resources on NFS for now. I support the Church programs first and use others to compliment but not as primary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-24966300948809626382007-09-27T17:58:00.000-06:002007-09-27T17:58:00.000-06:00Renee;Say it's not so...you're leaving Legacy? Wh...Renee;<BR/>Say it's not so...you're leaving Legacy? What about the source templates? Does Roots Magic have text formatting in the notes? If not, you'll have to edit all your notes fields to remove the coding. Are you really sure you want to change?<BR/><BR/>Don't I sound like a Legacy commercial :-)<BR/><BR/>I love your blog - thanks for all your work.Family Attichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01969907355053683681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-77349319391281658292007-09-26T20:43:00.000-06:002007-09-26T20:43:00.000-06:00Coolness, now we need a Linux developer to cover e...Coolness, now we need a Linux developer to cover everyone.Renee Zamorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-39816940997140568062007-09-26T04:58:00.000-06:002007-09-26T04:58:00.000-06:00I know of at least one Mac developer working on it...I know of at least one Mac developer working on it, and I expect several more will come on board once the beta is available.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-21502536831715674262007-09-25T21:44:00.000-06:002007-09-25T21:44:00.000-06:00Ethan so far I haven't heard. Maybe we just need ...Ethan so far I haven't heard. Maybe we just need to ask the developers of genealogy programs for Macs to consider it. FamilySearch is willing to work with anyone. I believe the API is Open Source.Renee Zamorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-67703217553099076212007-09-25T20:53:00.000-06:002007-09-25T20:53:00.000-06:00Renee: I'm sad to see that none of the companies t...Renee: I'm sad to see that none of the companies that are on board so far offer Mac versions of their products. Heard anything from that venue?Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16502335814572111388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-29239696703391763742007-09-25T09:21:00.000-06:002007-09-25T09:21:00.000-06:00By the way Renee, I love your blog. It ranks righ...By the way Renee, I love your blog. It ranks right up there with my rubber ducky and my blankie.R Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01418481211074340777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-24872568903293796062007-09-25T09:15:00.000-06:002007-09-25T09:15:00.000-06:00I have Legacy, Rootsmagic, and PAF with Insight. I...I have Legacy, Rootsmagic, and PAF with Insight. I prefer Rootsmagic so I keep my master file(s) on it. <BR/><BR/>PAF is a useful tool for the purpose for which it was invented. One does not NEED Insight in order to check the IGI just as one does not NEED to sync with NFS to continue to do temple work. These are tools but are not NECESSARY. <BR/><BR/>I don't recommend people spend $$ for a program that does for them exactly what PAF can do for free. When PAF no longer can do what it currently does, then I will recommend something else. For those who love 'bells and whistles', I recommend something other than PAF.<BR/><BR/>As a database, it could well last F-O-R-E-V-E-R!!!!R Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01418481211074340777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-33943580600330237552007-09-24T22:50:00.000-06:002007-09-24T22:50:00.000-06:00Bob, I only have the FamilySearch API Documentatio...Bob, I only have the FamilySearch API Documentation Table of Contents. The contact is Gordon Clarke, Manager his email address is clarkgj@ldshurch.org.Renee Zamorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-45939745081742944132007-09-24T16:01:00.000-06:002007-09-24T16:01:00.000-06:00Does anyone have detailed information about the Ne...Does anyone have detailed information about the New FamilySearch’s API? Where's the documentation? And is the API usage public? Who can I contact about this API?<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Bob CoretBob Corethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335682153584543589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-19545237752849536512007-09-24T15:20:00.000-06:002007-09-24T15:20:00.000-06:00Renee quoted the speaker as saying "BUT, if you wa...Renee quoted the speaker as saying "BUT, if you want to have you genealogy database interact and sync with NFS then you need to move over to a commercial product to do so."<BR/><BR/>You do not need to move away from PAF to sync with NFS. If you currently use PAF Insight and you are within your free update period, you can update for free to FamilyInsight when it is released (or in beta). It will sync your PAF file with NFS (in both directions).<BR/><BR/>FamilyInsight is the successor to PAF Insight and will look and feel like PAF Insight, so you won't have to learn a new program.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-68733354373994870182007-09-23T14:57:00.000-06:002007-09-23T14:57:00.000-06:00I agree with HappyDae that PAF is alive and well a...I agree with HappyDae that PAF is alive and well and well-supported. Besides telephone and email support, the FamilySearch website has a search engine for answers on all FamilySearch products. Click the Product Support link on the home page, and there you are!<BR/><BR/>I also wonder at the context for suggesting people learn Indexing rather than PAF. This seems to be a good suggestion for people whose family is well-researched, but a bad suggestion for people wanting to learn research and whose families have not yet been researched.<BR/><BR/>I work on an almost daily basis with PAF, Indexing, and New FamilySearch. To me they are complementary in nature.Bill Buchananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03189884588719495849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-47150102040974279912007-09-23T12:14:00.000-06:002007-09-23T12:14:00.000-06:00Renee, thank you so much for the tremendous effort...Renee, thank you so much for the tremendous effort you put into this blog. I appreciate the frequency with which you publish, and I love that your posts are so detailed. I find your blog really useful, and I check it every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-12581652989589814132007-09-23T01:27:00.000-06:002007-09-23T01:27:00.000-06:00I beg you pardon, Jennifer, but PAF is not dead. ...I beg you pardon, Jennifer, but <B>PAF</B> is not dead. It will continue to be supported, but they will not update it any longer.<BR/><BR/>What's the difference? The difference is a dead product isn't supported at all. You know, like Windoze 95.<BR/><BR/>I have it directly from a FamilySearch official who dispelled the "rumour of its demise" and said that a new personal genealogy program is "on the books" and will be released when ready.<BR/><BR/>As far as using commercial software, I can heartily recommend <B>The Master Genealogist</B> and <B>RootsMagic 3</B>. It does seem prudent to steer clear of <B>FTM 2008</B>, which has more bugs than a Houston kitchen.<BR/><BR/>I'm just saying...<BR/><BR/><B><I>Happy Dae.</I></B><BR/>http://www.ShoeStringGenealogy.com/ssg1.htmHappyDaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04960993272772122243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-73046946641535922282007-09-22T17:29:00.000-06:002007-09-22T17:29:00.000-06:00Mike: No mention of Genbox on the list at the time...Mike: No mention of Genbox on the list at the time of the meeting.<BR/><BR/>Jennifer: TMG has excellent chart features. Not sure if exactly the same as RootsMagic, but their options are extensive.Renee Zamorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.com