tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post7065723163814787464..comments2023-10-28T08:05:11.991-06:00Comments on Renee's Genealogy Blog: Interfacing with NFS - Part One AddendumRenee Zamorahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-56508419736369479742007-11-14T14:05:00.000-07:002007-11-14T14:05:00.000-07:00Although the new FamilySearch does allow uploading...Although the new FamilySearch does allow uploading of GEDCOMs, it is <B>strongly</B> discouraged unless the patron is certain that <B>none</B> of the information being uploaded duplicates information already in the new FamilySearch. I did a random comparison of 50 records each in two huge PAF files (Hale Family and Hall family)and found that 96%: 48/58 (Hall) and 98%: 49/50 (Hale) of the individuals were already in nFS.<BR/><BR/>So for 2nd+ generation Church members, you can be sure that almost all of your PAF individuals are already in nFS.<BR/><BR/>Every record uploaded to nFS becomes a <B>permanent</B> new record, taking up storage space forever and requiring great additional manual effort to combine it with other duplicates.<BR/><BR/>So the commercial "web search affiliates" are providing a desperately-needed alternative to GEDCOM upload by enabling 2-way synchronization that will put only new information into nFS.<BR/><BR/>As a long-time satisfied user of PAF Insight I will certainly give FamilyInsight a close look.Tracy Hall Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08718499621475544183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-80794304760030691232007-09-30T13:26:00.000-06:002007-09-30T13:26:00.000-06:00I will share this as I feel it is important for us...I will share this as I feel it is important for us all to know--and to be watchful of what we lead others to do. Anyone can have preferences, anyone can have favorites and want to add many different things. It is wonderful what technology can do. We must start people somewhere and I am so glad to have counsel on this and be able to focus on direct counsel as to where I lead others.<BR/> <BR/>Dear Sister Olds,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing to FamilySearch Support. It is an unfortunate rumor that PAF is not going to continue to be used and supported. PAF is not dead and is still being supported. PAF training should continue. When there are product changes, you will certainly learn about them through official church channels. Please do what you can to end the rumors. <BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sincerely, <BR/>FamilySearch Support <BR/>ntLindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01102759389174198382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-88849508037084949342007-09-28T15:14:00.000-06:002007-09-28T15:14:00.000-06:00It is important to know that you CAN upload a GEDC...It is important to know that you CAN upload a GEDCOM from PAF to new FamilySearch.Pappo - Darwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582418573631915295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-6117115209209751142007-09-28T09:56:00.000-06:002007-09-28T09:56:00.000-06:00Gaylon Findlay,Thank you for writing what you said...Gaylon Findlay,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing what you said. You said just the right thing for people like me who cannot speak so well for themselves. I do have "intense loyality" to PAF. Family History to most LDS members is not about the bells and whistles. It is about having the necessary information documented and having the ordinances performed for those in our own families who have died. PAF makes is easier and faster. I started collecting family history information in 1979, the day after I was baptised a member of the LDS Church. I had to either write or type information over and over again into different forms. I starting entering my family history information into PAF about 6 months after the first version came out. From then on, I had to only enter the data once. I am grateful to have the PAF program, and I hope that the Church does make it possible for PAF users to upload a GEDCOM if they want to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-42108917898800610962007-09-27T23:50:00.000-06:002007-09-27T23:50:00.000-06:00You stated, "Even though PAF gives every indicatio...You stated, "Even though PAF gives every indication of no brain waves.... Come on when are we going to announce it finally dead and gone!" and "Why do people hold onto a dead animal..."<BR/><BR/>Let me venture an opinion. PAF is an LDS Church program. It is also a very good program. While there are newer programs with more bells and whistles, PAF is still a very good program with a few bells and whistle of its own. And members of the LDS Church feel an intense loyalty to anything the Church produces. It has been taught in Sunday School classes and Family History Centers for years. A lot of people are very comfortable with it and see no reason to change. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I don't see it as being dead.<BR/><BR/>With the advent of the new FamilySearch, many of these PAF users, who are comfortable with PAF 5, are going to feel the first limitation in PAF that is serious enough to make them start looking for a fix.<BR/><BR/>You stated, "If you really want PAF's heart to continue beating you need to transplant it into a new host."<BR/><BR/>I am the author of Ancestral Quest, the program on which PAF is based. (I probably know PAF better than anyone.) PAF's heart has always also resided in Ancestral Quest. Ancestral Quest is being upgraded to allow a PAF database to interface with the new FamilySearch.<BR/><BR/>You mention how many add-ons a person must purchase "to make PAF do what other commercial products can already do." Frankly, simply owning the newer version of Ancestral Quest will do all of that in a single program. It will be like owning and upgraded PAF with most of the features of the add-ons. And a PAF user can continue to use PAF if that is more comfortable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-70402354354998542972007-09-26T22:03:00.000-06:002007-09-26T22:03:00.000-06:00FamilyInsight is not being beta tested in the St. ...FamilyInsight is not being beta tested in the St. Louis Temple District or anywhere else - at the moment. But it will be soon.<BR/><BR/>Aloha,<BR/>JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-46183552191771649872007-09-26T20:19:00.000-06:002007-09-26T20:19:00.000-06:00Thank you so much I had heard something like that ...Thank you so much I had heard something like that but I wasn't sure.Renee Zamorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874175462287024500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-25220666036343974172007-09-26T13:17:00.000-06:002007-09-26T13:17:00.000-06:00The "free update" period for PAF Insight/Family In...The "free update" period for PAF Insight/Family Insight is 1 yr. from date of purchase (at least that's what I understand from Ohanasoftware's web site purchase page:<BR/><B>Includes license and one year of free downloadable updates.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5882615047107015166.post-63786938022953583962007-09-25T08:27:00.000-06:002007-09-25T08:27:00.000-06:00I don't know where I read it but I am quite sure I...I don't know where I read it but I am quite sure I read somewhere that Family Insight will work directly with GEDCOM files and does not need PAF to operate. Maybe someone knows more about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com